My Best Minelab Manticore Salt Water Settings: M11, M9 and M8 Coils
I’ve done a lot of testing lately mostly with the M9 and M8. These are both great coils and both make a big difference in the Manti’s signal to noise ratio. This means that you can run hotter in salt and hear smaller targets. My initial tests have been on a fresh water beach and with small targets. Fact: There are a lot of ways you can run this machine and not all of them are that great on small gold. With the NOX I found that simple 2 Tone and Prospecting audio (g2) were the best so I set about trying to replicate these settings. Two tone is a great freshwater beach Manticore setting. I ran Surf and Seawater to overcome my tough, black sand mixed in beach. This way of operating gives great detail on responses especially when you combine it with skilled use of the cross sweep and high quality headphones. Really hammers those small foils–you can see the potential right away. With the M9 I was able to run the Sensitivity up to 28—quite a powerful setting. Higher though causes the audio to “bunch up” –overrunning targets slightly and sounding jumpy overall. (Its very important to be able to hear when the Manti is doing this).
Im anxious to try simple Two Tone in fast salt to see if it can be balanced out to run as well there as it does on my black sand freshwater beach. I take the stock middle “line” down to zero in that I feel that this big low tone block blends with the ground noises in salt. Even moving the Tone Break up a bit would not be out of the question to accomplish this as it worked well to stabilize the NOX. In that chains are the best finds where I hunt this is something to be done with caution.
At the same time my tests over time have shown that its Prospecting audio that’s got the most low conductor punch. Dankowski’s 11 coil settings are very good and let you walk right down the slope into the swish. You may have to run Horseshoe “on” to do this and having this choice lets you also run right in salt water. This requires lower Sensitivity settings though depending which coil you are using. I’ve gone in behind my own hunt running “segmented “ style audio and found quite a few more targets running Prospecting audio. This made a believer out of me. Its more like a pulse or all metal signal and seems to ride over interference sources like slopes and seabed contours better than a segmented mode.
Finally we have Dankowski’s Low Conductor mode. This is a very powerful way to run the Manticore but it’s noisy. It too can be run with horseshoe “on” to smooth it out a bit but the low conductor sensitivity does react to fast water and seabed. This setting requires very low Sensitivity settings—20 or lower. At the same time it’s very powerful this way –especially if you are hunting for small gold. If you are searching ground where a lot of chains are found—these two settings are definitely the way to go.
While I’ve gotten some great results running “segmented” type audio—particularly Five Region All Tones using the “Freestyle” ferrous Limits grid and “Excal” type audio (One Region All tones) my tests are now showing me that the super responsive, fluid response of Prospecting audio performs better—especially on small gold.
Speaking of “Freestyle” Neil’s audio set up is very fluid but is based upon five tones–so it gives a lot of information on signals but still “pops” well on targets in dense trash or iron. this audio set up can be pirated for other applications besides use with the “Freestyle” Ferrous Limits grid. The Ferrous Limits bordering also acts to smooth out the machine in salt water.Neil Jones’s “firewall” type approach in his “Freestyle” settings also work wel l to tone down the noise in salt water. Dankowski talks a lot about “getting used to” the noise and hearing through it. You can also run lower Ferrous Volume too.
Minelab Manticore Settings for the 8″, 9″ and 15″ Coils.
M8: very strong for a coil that size—and very punchy on the micro gold. Maybe not deep enough to use full time although I do see top pros doing this with the NOX 6”
M8 Coil (Dankowski)
With Manticore and 11″ or M8 coil……. I recommend
Beach Mode – Low Conductors
Recovery Speed = 4
Ferrous Limits = Upper: 4….and Lower: 0
Audio Theme: Prospecting audio
Volume: 25
Iron Volume: 25
Nothing ‘Notched’ (bring in the horseshoe)
Ground Balance
Do NOT Disc out ANYTHING!!
Make absolutely sure to dig ALL targets in the ‘single digits’ ID range. It’ll be a little painful (at first); yet, you will incur a epiphany-moment…..that will ‘justify’.
You should swing the small coil (M8) just a little slower than the M11 coil. About 1/3 slower. And…… if you can……. keep it about 2mm (to no more than) 5mm above the ground……IF you can start to handle the ear-bashing (assuming Sens 30). Hearing the aberations and salt-delta’s of the ground …is JUST as important as hearing real targets. In short order……. this will become intuitive.
M9: this coil seems to have “the best of both worlds” in that it’s quite deep and has good low conductor sensitivity (given the right settings).
M11: Great, deep all arounder—it will get small gold but is limited on real micro targets like fine chains.
M11( Dankowski)
Beach = General
Recovery Speed = 4
Audio = Prospecting
Ground Balance the unit over some water.,.,.,.,., about 2-feet deep of water. , . , . , . , . with the coil bobbing method ABOVE the water (not “IN” the water).
Volume = 25
Iron Volume = 25
Ferrous Limits – Upper = 5
Ferrous Limits – Lower = 3
Notch nothing! Bring in the iron. (Don’t allow for ‘ghost’ signals).
Sensitivity is going to be your ‘variable’. Run the Sens as high as you can IN the water.,.,.,.,., at a level that you can understand/handle. This may be around Sens 22.
M15: Nice large coil to swing. I see guys cutting off struts but I don’t feel this is necessary. Compared to a Coiltek 15” there is not much drag at all. I exercise my shoulder with a dumbbell to be able to search longer with this coil. The NOX could not really handle its big coil in salt and Dankowski says the same thing about the M15. It does require some balancing and higher /sensitivity settings are not necessarily what will get the performance. Its okay on small gold but does require that these targets have some solidity to them. If you want to run this coil at a sloped saltwater edge run N/S not E/W the interference from dragging the coil downhill needs a faster Rec Speed. With the 15″ for the NOX the recommendation was REC SPD 4 I try and stay around this level unless Im going parrellel on a hill. In fresh I see guys running Goldfield–great, smooth micro gold getter–Sens down at 20.
These are my observations after a couple of years with the Manti.
(Some micro 22k gold with the 11″ coil, 4.9 gr.)
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